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A thought has been wandering through my head of late, and it's something I have been mulling over for a while.

There's all this talk about equal marriage and all that, and it leads me to ask one very simple question:

What is your definition of marriage?

Please let me know what it is to you. Also, I would appreciate if you could spread this far and wide. I want to hear from a much wider audience that just my friends.

Date: 2012-05-27 09:51 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] steamcat
My definition is a socially recognised commitment between consenting adults (being a monogamist, I still default to two adults, but I also recognise and respect consenting and equal polyamourous relationships) to live, love and create a life together until death or a legally recognised dissolution of the commitment.

In the past, and in other cultures, marriage has been defined and used as different things, including a social transaction between two families (in which the parties to the marriage are currency for the transaction and are often children), or between a man and the father of his bride (in which the woman was the currency, in exchange for a dowry or accompanied by a dowry, depending on how undervalued women are considered to be in that culture). Marriage has, does and can include more than two parties, and the only reason anyone ever thinks it is just between a man and a woman is tradition - and not a very long tradition, at that.

Date: 2012-05-27 03:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] reynardo
Two people realise they want to spend the rest of their lives together. To show how serious they are about it, they make an affirmation in front of witnesses (usually friends), with someone there in a position of authority who can vouch that they are free to do it, and who can make an official record of the promise.

That it then gives an awesome excuse for a huge party and nice cake is a bonus, but not essential.

And it never was originally a "Christian" thingy. Even in the middle ages, it was a business agreement between the couple (and their families) which had to be performed *outside* the church because it was business. Then the union could be blessed by the priest, but it didn't have to include him.

I reckon three or more people could do it too, but as each additional person adds complexities to the arrangement, they would have to be *very* certain before solemnising the arrangement.

Date: 2012-06-03 05:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] serehfa
I'm not really into marriage as I see it as a property transaction, but I see no reason why anyone should be denied it, if its what they want. It carries economic burdens and benefits that should not be reserved for a certain group and withheld from others. I knew gay coupes from childhood who were steadier in their loyalty than some of the hetero couples the family knew, and society benefits from stability.

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I dream of rain
I dream of gardens in the desert sand
I wake in vain
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I dream of fire
Those dreams that tie two hearts that will never die
And near the flames
The shadows play in the shape of the man’s desire

This desert rose
Whose shadow bears the secret promise
This desert flower
No sweet perfume that would torture you more than this

And now she turns
This way she moves in the logic of all my dreams
This fire burns
I realize that nothing’s as it seems

I dream of rain
I dream of gardens in the desert sand
I wake in vain
I dream of love as time runs through my hand

I dream of rain
I lift my gaze to empty skies above
I close my eyes
The rare perfume is the sweet intoxication of love

I dream of rain
I dream of gardens in the desert sand
I wake in vain
I dream of love as time runs through my hand

Sweet desert rose
Whose shadow bears the secret promise
This desert flower
No sweet perfume that would torture you more than this

Sweet desert rose
This memory of hidden hearts and souls
This desert flower
This rare perfume is the sweet intoxication of love

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